Comments on: Dear Microsoft, You Missed the Boat http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/ Web Design Articles & Tutorials. To make the web impressive. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:11:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Zlatko http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-8768 Zlatko Sat, 05 Mar 2011 14:08:00 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-8768 Top-notch article Louis. You raise your voice in the name of tens of thousands web developers (and more) who share the same opinion. I'm expressing my hate toward Microsoft's "browser support" by naming my browser-specific css file to "ie-sucks.css" and then into the file I comment: /* It was supposed to be ie-hacks.css */ :) Top-notch article Louis. You raise your voice in the name of tens of thousands web developers (and more) who share the same opinion. I’m expressing my hate toward Microsoft’s “browser support” by naming my browser-specific css file to “ie-sucks.css” and then into the file I comment: /* It was supposed to be ie-hacks.css */ :)

]]> By: Manikandan M http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-8579 Manikandan M Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:12:29 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-8579 Thanks for those Unanswerable Questions. You did for all designer's and developer's mind reading. I think why we need to use IE? We people are mostly using FF Chrome Safari. Big claps for the browsers Cheers Mani... Thanks for those Unanswerable Questions.
You did for all designer’s and developer’s mind reading.
I think why we need to use IE?
We people are mostly using FF Chrome Safari.
Big claps for the browsers
Cheers Mani…

]]> By: someone http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-7382 someone Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:47:25 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-7382 RIP, MS = noob's . RIP, MS = noob’s .

]]> By: Bill Gates http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-6859 Bill Gates Sat, 11 Sep 2010 23:01:52 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-6859 Hello dear readers, I'm so sorry about this, but our developers are so stupid...... I pay them alot of money, they don't want to build Internet Explorer as they might do it ): But, it's ok, I don't care what you say about me. I am 1 of the richest man in the world, so I don't care what 5 people say about me. Cya loosers. hahaha lol. Hello dear readers,

I’m so sorry about this, but our developers are so stupid……
I pay them alot of money, they don’t want to build Internet Explorer as they might do it ):
But, it’s ok, I don’t care what you say about me. I am 1 of the richest man in the world, so I don’t care what 5 people say about me. Cya loosers. hahaha lol.

]]> By: Daniel Murphy http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-6739 Daniel Murphy Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:52:22 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-6739 Well written article. I wouldn't be surprised if that really was Bill Gates's response - "you'll always be poor". Remember back in the 20th century - when Microsoft used to be competitive? Well written article. I wouldn’t be surprised if that really was Bill Gates’s response – “you’ll always be poor”. Remember back in the 20th century – when Microsoft used to be competitive?

]]> By: Louis Lazaris http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-5894 Louis Lazaris Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:04:46 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-5894 When I say it's "corporate", I mean it caters much better to very large websites in certain niches, many of which are not built by those promoting web standards. Besides, how many web standards advocates do you know that promote the .NET framework? Whenever you see back-end programming mixed with front-end code from any of those guys, it's always PHP. Nonetheless, my statement was probably ignorant, but as an observer (and a long-time-ago user of ASP.NET), I feel it's anti-standards, and very difficult to work with. When I say it’s “corporate”, I mean it caters much better to very large websites in certain niches, many of which are not built by those promoting web standards.

Besides, how many web standards advocates do you know that promote the .NET framework? Whenever you see back-end programming mixed with front-end code from any of those guys, it’s always PHP.

Nonetheless, my statement was probably ignorant, but as an observer (and a long-time-ago user of ASP.NET), I feel it’s anti-standards, and very difficult to work with.

]]> By: Jon http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-5892 Jon Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:00:42 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-5892 Well I can understand you feeling .NET is complex or more difficult to get off the ground with than PHP. But saying it's 'corporate' and therefore anti-standards is a non-sequitur. It's not the kind of opinion that does you any favours. It's the kind of opinion that will cause people to lose respect for you. Well I can understand you feeling .NET is complex or more difficult to get off the ground with than PHP.

But saying it’s ‘corporate’ and therefore anti-standards is a non-sequitur. It’s not the kind of opinion that does you any favours. It’s the kind of opinion that will cause people to lose respect for you.

]]> By: Louis Lazaris http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-5889 Louis Lazaris Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:00:46 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-5889 A few people have disagreed with that statement, and I'm sure the more recent versions of the framework are much better with regards to standards-based code. But basically, I say that because it's a very difficult framework to work with, and very difficult for someone who usually only works with front-end code. Whereas, something like PHP is very easy to learn. Of course, comparing PHP to .NET is basically apples to oranges, but my point is that it's very difficult for a non-computer engineer (like myself) to get up and running with something as complex as .NET, and to mess around with it. It's very "corporate", and thus anti-standards. But I suppose even some PHP frameworks could have that label, so it's just a matter of perspective. Besides, I'm nobody. This is just my opinion -- but nothing that anyone has said here has convinced me otherwise. A few people have disagreed with that statement, and I’m sure the more recent versions of the framework are much better with regards to standards-based code. But basically, I say that because it’s a very difficult framework to work with, and very difficult for someone who usually only works with front-end code. Whereas, something like PHP is very easy to learn.

Of course, comparing PHP to .NET is basically apples to oranges, but my point is that it’s very difficult for a non-computer engineer (like myself) to get up and running with something as complex as .NET, and to mess around with it. It’s very “corporate”, and thus anti-standards. But I suppose even some PHP frameworks could have that label, so it’s just a matter of perspective.

Besides, I’m nobody. This is just my opinion — but nothing that anyone has said here has convinced me otherwise.

]]> By: Jon http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-5885 Jon Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:01:21 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-5885 I agree with your stance on IE. I wish I could be privy to the motivations and reasoning behind making such a stagnant browser. I wouldn't mind them releasing crappy browser after crappy browser if they weren't holding up the entire net. However, your stance on .NET is strange. It feels like you're just annoyed at Microsoft and venting more than you have solid reasons for disliking the framework. You say it's anti-standards but nowhere do you state why it's anti-standards. I write in .NET and I don't find it at all difficult to conform to web standards. After all, I'm the one who's responsible for the HTML output. The framework never gets in the way of that - why therefore is it anti-standards? I agree with your stance on IE. I wish I could be privy to the motivations and reasoning behind making such a stagnant browser. I wouldn’t mind them releasing crappy browser after crappy browser if they weren’t holding up the entire net.

However, your stance on .NET is strange. It feels like you’re just annoyed at Microsoft and venting more than you have solid reasons for disliking the framework. You say it’s anti-standards but nowhere do you state why it’s anti-standards.

I write in .NET and I don’t find it at all difficult to conform to web standards. After all, I’m the one who’s responsible for the HTML output. The framework never gets in the way of that – why therefore is it anti-standards?

]]> By: Carlos Osuna http://www.impressivewebs.com/dear-microsoft/#comment-5853 Carlos Osuna Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:01:13 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=1751#comment-5853 Sadly, the decision to dump IE6 is as risky as pulling the plug on AA batteries (in favor or AAA). There are thousands upon thousands of internal apps which depend on it or render afoul and they don't have the budget to be changed, or the company is no longer in business. There's even a ton of embedded apps inside routers, hotspots, etc. that were made to look good on IE6. So basically, don't count on IE6 ever going away. I've heard of several companies even using VMWare, Virtual PC and other emulators to run dedicated XP installations with IE6 with special firewalls that only allow specific traffic into this instances. Sadly, the decision to dump IE6 is as risky as pulling the plug on AA batteries (in favor or AAA). There are thousands upon thousands of internal apps which depend on it or render afoul and they don’t have the budget to be changed, or the company is no longer in business.

There’s even a ton of embedded apps inside routers, hotspots, etc. that were made to look good on IE6.

So basically, don’t count on IE6 ever going away. I’ve heard of several companies even using VMWare, Virtual PC and other emulators to run dedicated XP installations with IE6 with special firewalls that only allow specific traffic into this instances.

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