Comments on: Skills for Front-End Developers http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/ Web Design Articles & Tutorials. To make the web impressive. Wed, 16 May 2012 22:25:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Demetrio http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-20746 Demetrio Sun, 06 May 2012 22:58:12 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-20746 Very interesting list/discussion. I found this article being someone that's looking for work as a frontend developer, who has skills primarilly in html, css, jQuery dom scripting, and php basics within wordpress. But then I see a lot of job postings where they say something like: requirements, expert in rails development, OOP Javascript, MySQL, etc. and all the sudden it stops seeming like what traditionally has been known as front-end development. If I had to make a standard list, I'd say the basic requirements would be these: Some understanding of design-photoshop etc. HTML(5) CSS(3)..let's face it, the web is moving this way.. a Javascript framework-In the real world probably jquery, with a focus on DOM manipulation, and some AJAX. knowledge of working within a backend language such as PHP, or within ASP.NET(at least in my area).. Seems like a more reasonable list/workflow, than what many companies are asking for today. Very interesting list/discussion. I found this article being someone that’s looking for work as a frontend developer, who has skills primarilly in html, css, jQuery dom scripting, and php basics within wordpress. But then I see a lot of job postings where they say something like: requirements, expert in rails development, OOP Javascript, MySQL, etc. and all the sudden it stops seeming like what traditionally has been known as front-end development.

If I had to make a standard list, I’d say the basic requirements would be these:

Some understanding of design-photoshop etc.
HTML(5)
CSS(3)..let’s face it, the web is moving this way..
a Javascript framework-In the real world probably jquery, with a focus on DOM manipulation, and some AJAX.
knowledge of working within a backend language such as PHP, or within ASP.NET(at least in my area)..

Seems like a more reasonable list/workflow, than what many companies are asking for today.

]]> By: Chris Dunst http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-19734 Chris Dunst Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:30:11 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-19734 Interesting to read everyone's thoughts on the necessary skills, and picking out some that may not have made the list a year ago. At the risk of looking like spam, take a look at a site a friend and I created as a side-project - <a href="http://www.skillslog.com" rel="nofollow">Skills Log</a> - you can list your own skills, and levels of proficiency, plus you can find skills by occupation. I wouldn't normally promote it in a comment thread, but thought it was relevant to the topic... Interesting to read everyone’s thoughts on the necessary skills, and picking out some that may not have made the list a year ago.

At the risk of looking like spam, take a look at a site a friend and I created as a side-project – Skills Log – you can list your own skills, and levels of proficiency, plus you can find skills by occupation.

I wouldn’t normally promote it in a comment thread, but thought it was relevant to the topic…

]]> By: david http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-19638 david Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:41:33 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-19638 here is what basic frontend needs all adobe suite projects HTML CSS Jquery wordpress optional but useful: some API experience. PHP understanding. basic JS/PHP manipulation now if you were going into applications, then yes you would need to know how to build JS/PHP from scratch, which is backend. what is happening is that some of backend(AKA programming) is getting integrated with frontend because everyone is learning it and companies realized they can pay someone less to do the same job yet call it "frontend" when it is honestly. front-back end. it is not the same frontend as it was years ago as that positioning is dying as webapps and mobile keeps getting hotter sadly enough. that's the issue here and that's why companies post "frontend" with such heavy programming requirements. here is what basic frontend needs

all adobe suite projects
HTML CSS Jquery wordpress
optional but useful: some API experience. PHP understanding. basic JS/PHP manipulation

now if you were going into applications, then yes you would need to know how to build JS/PHP from scratch, which is backend.

what is happening is that some of backend(AKA programming) is getting integrated with frontend because everyone is learning it and companies realized they can pay someone less to do the same job yet call it “frontend” when it is honestly.

front-back end. it is not the same frontend as it was years ago as that positioning is dying as webapps and mobile keeps getting hotter sadly enough.

that’s the issue here and that’s why companies post “frontend” with such heavy programming requirements.

]]> By: Louis Lazaris http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-18451 Louis Lazaris Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:19:54 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-18451 Ben, you obviously disagree, and I respect that. However, even if I was to leave off PHP (and all back-end languages), then I'd have tons of people posting comments asking why I didn't list PHP. I can't please everyone. The point of this list is to motivate us to keep learning more, not to scare or intimidate people. I don't know at least half the things on this list -- or else I know them very poorly. But I do think you'd be a great front-end dev if you knew them all to some degree. Think of it as a goals list that we can keep striving for, and maybe will never quite attain. There's nothing wrong with having high expectations to keep pushing yourself to learn more, even if you always fall short of those expectations (which you always will in this field of work). Ben, you obviously disagree, and I respect that. However, even if I was to leave off PHP (and all back-end languages), then I’d have tons of people posting comments asking why I didn’t list PHP. I can’t please everyone.

The point of this list is to motivate us to keep learning more, not to scare or intimidate people. I don’t know at least half the things on this list — or else I know them very poorly. But I do think you’d be a great front-end dev if you knew them all to some degree.

Think of it as a goals list that we can keep striving for, and maybe will never quite attain. There’s nothing wrong with having high expectations to keep pushing yourself to learn more, even if you always fall short of those expectations (which you always will in this field of work).

]]> By: Ben http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-18449 Ben Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:48:52 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-18449 The reason they list these skills is because you have people like you putting list's up online The reason they list these skills is because you have people like you putting list’s up online

]]> By: Ben http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-18448 Ben Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:45:35 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-18448 Do you not think employers expect this because their are list's like this online? Do you not think employers expect this because their are list’s like this online?

]]> By: wheresrhys http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-18434 wheresrhys Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:18:10 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-18434 How about unit testing. As web apps complexity grows unit testing (with e.g. jasmine.js) is a very useful skill to have How about unit testing. As web apps complexity grows unit testing (with e.g. jasmine.js) is a very useful skill to have

]]> By: Michael LeRoux http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-18396 Michael LeRoux Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:31:13 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-18396 I get the joke, unlike most of the commenters. Many job descriptions include an even longer list of technologies and buzzwords. I get the joke, unlike most of the commenters. Many job descriptions include an even longer list of technologies and buzzwords.

]]> By: Anaradam http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-18367 Anaradam Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:52:47 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-18367 Thanks for the post... It gives a new way... Thanks for the post… It gives a new way…

]]> By: Nate http://www.impressivewebs.com/skills-front-end-developers/#comment-18331 Nate Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:12:49 +0000 http://www.impressivewebs.com/?p=5150#comment-18331 If you're not using PHP includes to avoid repeating your HTML, you should check them out. Great time saver. <a href="http://www.tizag.com/phpT/include.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.tizag.com/phpT/include.php</a> If you’re not using PHP includes to avoid repeating your HTML, you should check them out. Great time saver.

http://www.tizag.com/phpT/include.php

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